feetnotes ([info]feetnotes) wrote,
@ 2006-05-25 01:36:00
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Current mood: pissed off
Current music:"paperback writer" - the beatles

scam agents (of probable interest to new & would-be writers, & others)

i've over the decades had a trickle of authors conned by vanity presses into paying for these alleged publishers to have their works typeset, printed, bound - and then abandoned, attempt to get me to carry the duds they've been landed with the stock of in my shop; i've this year become aware of a new twist to the con - the scam agent.

one of these has managed to browbeat the owner of a good & helpful site's hosts into pulling the entire web-site on an hour's notice (see the story in making light), for carrying the list of the writer beware's twenty worst (= predatory scam) agents as carried by the science fiction writers of america web-site.

you can lose a lot of money falling for either of these cons, and it is terribly easy for any inexperienced writer who isn't in touch with anyone in the trade to fall for them; so, if you happen to have a friend who's an unpublished, and therefore unagented, writer - or are yourself one - read the pages linked to, consider googling on "scam agent" + "barbara bauer" to see what can happen - and be warned.

to get your work published, you have to write it, complete it, submit it to editors at publishers liable to be interested in the kind of book you've written - taking notice of any critical feedback you might be lucky enough to receive - and to go on writing, completing and submitting (in typescript or letter quality word-processed printout, one side of the page only, with a full blank line between every line of text...) until an editor offers you a contract: then contact established, legitimate agents with verifiable track records, and find one who suits you, likes your work - and is prepared to explain the contract to you, and able to spot where a clause is the publisher trying it on - which even penguin have been known to. friends willing and able to read and criticise your work may help; not everyone finds this easy. don't send your only copy, and keep back-ups. - good luck -



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[info]kaiserdad
2006-05-25 03:59 am UTC (link)
criticise my work, criticise my work, I'll set the dog on them, the bounders!

Have you let [info]roobarb know when you are coming over?

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[info]feetnotes
2006-05-25 08:52 pm UTC (link)

that, sir, is up to [info]roobarb - and "summer" was i believe her preference - when she can relax and take time to think of interesting ways of expressing appreciation to manglement'n'assessments curiously akin to the effects of the discworldly auditors...

- so when're you all visiting blackpool again?

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No Blackpool this year
[info]kaiserdad
2006-05-26 06:52 pm UTC (link)
TARA Trips;
4th June Whitby
16th July Llandudno
27th August Bridlington
1st October York

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[info]miss_next
2006-05-25 06:25 am UTC (link)
Thank you! I'm very much afraid this may have happened to David, so I've alerted him.

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[info]flexor
2006-05-25 04:12 pm UTC (link)
I've read a book by Orson Scott Card on How To Write An Essef Novel, and the thing that struck me about the bit on agents was: "No money shall ever travel from writer to agent. Ever."

By this he meant that if the agent asks for money up front, he's no good. If your book sells, your friendly agent will get his money from the publishers.

Or so my caffeine-addled memory tells me...

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[info]feetnotes
2006-05-25 09:30 pm UTC (link)

(some time ago now) the scott meredith lit. ag. started charging a $50 reading fee for manuscripts (i.e. properly formatted typescipts - it's just traditional to call 'em mss.) from unpublished writers. i do not know whether they still do this, but they were (& are, sfaiaa) a well-established commercial literary agency at the time. (iirc, this fee was deductable from any earnings the agency was eventually due on sales made by the book in question.) (i do not remember whether "editorial advice" by the agency was a service included in the fee.)

in general, though, the agent's fee comes off the the top of the advance paid by the publisher to the author (traditionally 10% in the home market), and off any royalties eventually earned over & above this; and from advances, etc. paid from subsequent re-licensing; and from foreign rights licensing (where the agent's cut is usually higher).

occasionally, a very low-paying publisher's offer will be accepted by an agent if they judge it's the best offer they can hope for at the time, and the publisher is offering to pay the agent an over-ride: in which case there should be no deduction of a % by the agent (and there would not usually be any further royalty during the life of such a licence, unless things've greatly changed in these latter days); but usually the agent's income is taken from what the publisher pays the author via their agent.

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